The John Haskins Line – Lower

This is a page within the family line deriving from William Haskyns (1706-1766)

This page relates to a line of Haskins whose c. 1940-2030 generation are 4th cousins to me, but whose c. 1920-2010 generation are 3rd cousins to my father, and to Peter Haskins. Peter met many of these people in Olveston Glos. See the photo at Marjorie's 70th birthday party in 1989, and a couple of names on the back. Marjorie Haskins is right-of-centre, in blue, stooping. And I found Marjorie in her frontyard on 11 June 2008, aged 89.

Peter provided the information to me in Canberra (on two hand-written scrolls) when he visited us in the early 1990s. It was captured into this form in 2006-07. It has been subsequently enhanced based on Anne Kratzmann's family history research, particularly in the Census returns of 1841-1891.

  1. John HASKINS b. 1837, Olverston, d. 1917
    SEE THE UPPER HASKINS LINE BACK TO 1706
    SEE THE MIDDLE HASKINS LINE 1840-1940
    In the 1851 Census: page 1, page 2, at 14, with his parents at Tockington Rd.
    In the 1861 Census, at 23, with his parents at Tockington Rd, Ag Labourer.
    m1. 1867 Firstname? GOODLEFF [June Qtr 1867 6a 359 Thornbury]
    They had children 1-2, but she died in childbirth [June Qtr 1870 6a 146 Thornbury]
    m2. 1871 Miriam PHELPS [June Qtr 1871 6a 5 Bristol]
    She was b. 1837 Cheltenham, d. 23 Nov 1882 aged 45 (HFB).
    They had children 3-5.
    They lived in Olveston, nth of Bristol, just north of what is now the M4 Jn 21 with the M48
    In the 1871 Census, John is a widower, age 34, with his mother Mary (63) listed as Housekeeper, his 2 children by his first wife, and Mary Ann Young (16), who had been adopted by his father, listed as a Domestic Servant, and a 16-year-old lad also as a Domestic Servant.
    Soon after 1871, he took over The Green in Olveston (800 metres away) from John's brother Joseph (when Joseph went with his Minister boss, ultimately to Winchester).
    'Gentleman John' developed a market gardening business at The Green from the early 1870s, and delivered flowers into Bristol shops, plus floral decorations for weddings.
    Presumably John did so well that he (highly unusually for the family), managed to purchase the property. In this image, the market gardening property is the tear-shaped area surrounded by the street still called The Green. It appears to have been about 150m x 100m, or c. 2-1/2 acres / 1 hectare.
    In the 1881 Census, John is a Florist and Gardener at The Green, age 42, with his second wife Miriam (41), with all 5 children, plus Miriam's mother Emma Phelps (68, Annuitant, b. Bentham Glos.), and Miriam's sister Emma L. Phelps, unmarried (39, formerly Cook).
    In late 1882, at 45, he became a widower for the second time.
    In the 1891 Census, John is a Market Gardener and Florist at The Green, age 53, widower. The household included sons Francis (23), William (18) and Frederick (17) in the business, and son Herbert (15) and daughter Ada (20).
    In the 1901 Census, John is 65, widower, Nurseryman, employing brother William (69) as Gardener, with son Fred (27) as Salesman on "own account", plus Ada (30) and a servant.
    The Green passed, presumably in 1917, to 4th son Frederick, and then in 1939 to his unmarried daughters Violet and Marjorie.
    By 1989 the business no longer operated, and most of the land had been sold and used for a housing development.
    Possibly extant Haskins lines are shown in bold below.
    1. Francis William HASKINS (1868-1940), Olveston
      b. Mar qtr 1868 Thornbury 6a 196
      Francis appears in the 1881 Census (so aged 13) and in 1891 (aged 23),
      at The Green with his father, and as "Market Gardener & Florist"
      but he isn't apparent in the 1911 Census
      m. Elsie Maria Stockden (1867-1942), Sep qtr 1893, Thornbury 6a 425
      Elsie was born Else Maria, Jun qtr 1867, Thornbury 6a 192
      Francis W. d. Dec qtr 1940, Thornbury 6a 667, aged 72
      Elsie M. d. Jun qtr 1942, Thornbury 6a 444, aged 75
      1. Norah Elsie HASKINS (1894-?)
        b. Dec qtr 1894 Thornbury 6a 203
        m. Sep qtr 1923? to Alexander WALLACE, Thornbury 61 651
        possibly migrated to America
        There's no death registry entry for Norah E. Wallace, and none local
        (but there are a couple for Norah Wallace without a second initial)
      2. Gertrude HASKINS (1895-?)
        b. Dec qtr 1895, Thornbury 6a 202
        Possible Death Registry entries are G.A. in 1955 and G.L. in 1967
      3. Edward John HASKINS (1902-1962)
        b. 1 Feb 1902, regd Mar qtr 1902 Thornbury 6a 266
        m. Ethel May Causon (1902-1964)
        m. Sep qtr 1933 Bristol 6A P 413, but the entry says 'Canson'
        Ethel was b. 28 Dec 1902, regd Mar qtr 1903, Bristol 6A 207
        bapt. 7 Feb 1903, Two Mile Hill, St Michael, Bristol,
        mother Florence Ann Causon nee Morgan
        The 1911 Census shows Ethel May Causon b.1903
        In 1939, Edward (then 37) was in Thornbury, in partnership with
        his father (Francis) who was then shown as age 72, married
        Edward J. d. Mar qtr 1962 aged 60, Bristol 7b 407
        Another possible Death Registry entry is in Mar qtr 1973 Bristol 7B 646
        Ethel M. d. Jun qtr 1964 Bristol 7B 273
        1. Kathleen (M.?) HASKINS (1934-)
          b. Sep qtr 1934, Thornbury, 6A P 341
        2. Richard E. HASKINS (1938-)
          b. Dec qtr 1938, Thornbury, 6A P 392
          m. Maureen M. Lacey, Sep? qtr 1965, Thornbury 7B P 1691
          Lives in Thornbury, Gloucestershire, 3 miles North of Olveston
          1. Michael HASKINS Dec qtr 1968-
          2. Joanne Haskins 1973-
            m. ROGERS
            1. Caitlin Rogers 1999-
            2. Toby Rogers 2001-
    2. Ada M. HASKINS [June qtr] 1870-?, Olveston
      Born with curvature of the spine
      Ada appears in the 1881 and 1891 Census, at The Green.
    3. William P. HASKINS 1872/73-?
      William appears in the 1881 and 1891 Census, at The Green.
      m. ? ?
      1. son HASKINS
      2. son HASKINS
      3. daughter
    4. Frederick H. HASKINS b. 1874 Olveston, d. 1939
      Frederick appears in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 Census returns at The Green, in 1901, at 27, as a Salesman "own account".
      m. 1901 (Maria?) Elizabeth HILL b. 1878, d. 1965
      Appears to have inherited the business at The Green from his father in 1917, when he was 43, but may not have carried it on with the same success – although it appears to have at least survived. He appears to have willed the property to his two unmarried daughters, the eldest Violet and youngest Marjorie.
      Did he know he had a first cousin of the same name in Winchester/Portsmouth?
      1. Violet HASKINS 1902-1988
        Never married.
        She inherited half of the remnant business at The Green in 1939, at 37.
        Marjorie told me in 2008 that Violet lived there until her death nearly 50 years later.
      2. Harold Frederick HASKINS 1904-1980
        m. ? Margaret Rosetta HULBERT 1903-1959
        1. Michael HASKINS b. 22 Nov 1932 (see 1989 photo and back - ?)
          m. 1960 Kathleen Mary SHEA b.?
          1. Suzanne HASKINS b. 1962
            Living in Olveston in 1989
          2. Nichol? Nicola? (female) HASKINS b. 1965
            Living in Olveston in 1989
        2. Rosemary HASKINS b. 1935 (see 1989 photo and back - ?)
          m. 1 Sep 1956 ? BROOKE
          Living in Scotland in 1989
          1. Jeremy BROOKE b. 1959
          2. Sophie BROOKE b.1962
            m. 1982-95? ?
            1. Ben ? b. 1983
            2. Jack ? b. 1988
        3. Jeremy HASKINS b.1936 (see 1989 photo and back - ?)
          m. ? Anne Margaret MAURICE b. 1939
          Living in Patchway in 1989 (3 miles South of Olveston, just inside the M5)
          1. Jason/Justin HASKINS b. 1969
          2. Kate HASKINS b. 1971
      3. William John HASKINS b.1907 - >1988 (but in senile dementia)
        m. 18 Oct 1929 Gertrude Annis RUGMAN 19 Sep 1906 - 11 Feb 1978
        1. Donald William HASKINS b.1931? (see 1989 photo and back - ?)
          m. ? b. ?
          1. Sally Gail HASKINS b. 10 Jan 1958
            m. 26 Jul 1980 Brian HOWE b.?
            1. Caroline Louise HOWE b. 15 Jan 1987
            2. Rachel Elizabeth HOWE b. 24 Apr 1989
          2. Simon Patrick HASKINS b. 28 Feb 1960
            m. 14 May 1983 Dorothy SUMMERS b.?
            1. Stuart Michael HASKINS b. 3 Jul 1985
        2. Joan Ann HASKINS b. 17 Nov 1934
          m. ? James Ivor LEE b.?
          1. Julia Ann LEE b. 2 Apr 1957
            m. 17 Sep 1983 Roger Leslie WOODRUFF
            1. Richard James WOODRUFF b. 20 Apr 1986
            2. Paul Michael WOODRUFF b. 23 Mar 1985
        3. Molly Elizabeth HASKINS b. 21 Feb 1942
          m. ? Geoffrey William WOODMAN b.?
          1. Paul Anthony WOODMAN b. 27 Mar 1963
          2. Gary James WOODMAN b. 9 Apr 1965
          3. Helen Jane WOODMAN b. 5 Jan 1968
          4. James Lincoln WOODMAN b. 11 May 1974
      4. Elsie May (Mary) HASKINS 1911-19(87?)
        m. ? HORLER, div., no children
        Living in Bristol in 1989
      5. Cyril Edward HASKINS 1912-1920
      6. Marjorie Elizabeth HASKINS b.1919
    5. Herbert E. HASKINS 1875/76-?, Olveston
      Herbert appears in the 1881 and 1891 Census, at The Green.
      m. ? Kate ? ?-?
      Owned a grocer's shop in Redlands Bristol

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Created: 22 Dec 2006; Last Amended: 1 Mar 2008 rev. 30 Aug 2008, then 1-30 Apr 2020 to include information from Caitlin Rogers, 7-8 May 2020 from and Anne's and Roger's research